Observation by Paul G. Abel: Neptune, Triton and Nereid

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Paul G. Abel

Observer

Paul G. Abel

Observed

2023 Oct 14 - 22:15

Uploaded

2023 Oct 15 - 12:53

Objects

Neptune

Constellation

Cetus

Equipment
  • 305mm Newtonian, x115, x250 and x470
Title

Neptune, Triton and Nereid

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Neptune in very good conditions last night.  I have included two lower power drawings. On the left at x115 Neptune can be seen near the 7th magnitude yellow main sequence star HD 222878. What I believe to be Nereid is visible in the 4 o'clock position. In the drawing on bottom right at a power of x250, both Triton and Nereid can be seen in the 4 o'clock position (Triton is closer to Neptune). If this is Nereid, then this is my first sighting of Neptune's elusive fainter satellite!

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Grant Privett
Grant Privett, 2023 Oct 15 - 16:03 UTC

Wouldn't Nereid be a bit faint for visual detection using a 12"?

A background star perhaps?

Paul G. Abel
Paul G. Abel, 2023 Oct 15 - 17:18 UTC

Possibly.  The planetarium software I use doesn't show any faint stars in the correct place.  The sky was exceptionally transparent.

Grant Privett
Grant Privett, 2023 Oct 15 - 17:33 UTC

It would have to be to glimpse mag 18.

It was a nice night.

Paul G. Abel
Paul G. Abel, 2023 Oct 15 - 18:32 UTC

Well actually Sky Safari has it listed as Mv~ +19.3 and that really is beyond the range of a 12" telescope!  Curious- I'll have a look with some other software to see if I can find a field star in a similar position.

Dr Paul Leyland
Dr Paul Leyland, 2023 Oct 17 - 16:15 UTC

According to the MPC, the coordinates of Nereid at 20231014T2217Z were 23:45:00.7 -03:00:20.

After heading over to https://aladin.cds.unistra.fr/AladinLite/ and pulling up the DSS2 image of that field, it appears that Gaia DR3 2639721332875902848 is located at 23:45:02.2 -03:00:21 and has a g magnitude of 15.90

Glimpsing a 15.9 mag star in a 30cm seems reasonable to me, given good sky and eyesight.

I suggest that is what was seen.

 

Paul G. Abel
Paul G. Abel, 2023 Oct 17 - 23:16 UTC

I’m afraid I don’t agree with this at all.  There is no way I can see beyond magnitude +13 with my 12 inch Newtonian from my location, and even if one were in a completely dark sky I think magnitude +15.9 would be beyond a 12” Newtonian.

The initial mistake was mine, for some reason I thought Nereid was much brighter that it is- it is in fact well beyond my 12” telescope and what I observed was of similar brightness to Triton. I am looking into this and will report back when I have an answer…

Dr Paul Leyland
Dr Paul Leyland, 2023 Oct 18 - 03:00 UTC

Gaia DR3 2639722565530205824 is g=13.67 at 23:44:55.3 -02:57:18 and

Gaia DR3 2639721951351192832 is g=12.37 at 23:44:46.6 -02:59:56

Triton was V=13.46 at the time.

 

 

 

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