I am now at the telescope taking a long series of exposures and a satellite or meteor just went through a frame. Very faint. Stars down to 17th mag are easily visible but the trail only just shows up above the sky noise. Guess 15th or so? It is going to be completely invisible in the final stack.
Not sure how relevant this is to the current discussion but it shows that we don´t need Starlink to be able to pick up the present vermin of the skies.