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Grant Privett
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Thanks to everyone for their observations. An alternative view helps.

I think I have to separate the problem into two parts to make it easier to grasp.

During observing: I used to have an AE 10” with thick tube walls and insulating the tube walls certainly seemed to help. The OOUK 12” has much thinner walls on it and so less thermal inertia, so it may not solve the problem entirely but, with a 12” dewheater up by the secondary it may be enough to avoid the faint mistiness on the main mirror I see on some nights. I leave the mirror cell fan running always – drawing a small amount of air down the length of the tube.

During daytime: I’ve been parking the tube inclined upwards at 5 degrees to help the water run off the mirror. I also have both ends open but with a muslin cloth over the end near the eyepiece to catch any smuts from local garden bonfires (it has happened – one of my neighbours went through a pyromaniac phase).

Air is drawn down the tube and out past the main mirror using the small fan in the mirror cell. The rationale was that the mirror front surface would more closely follow the air temperature if the air was moving rather than stagnant. The hope was that any periods of dew would be minimised. That worked badly!

I usually leave a gold coloured accident victim type mylar blanket over the scope to avoid drips from the roof affecting the tube. I tried having a cat blanket underneath the mylar in case that helped, but it didn’t.

I suppose I could increase the fan power or even reverse it so the flow is fast near the mirror and improve heat transfer – but it is heat transfer to the rear of the mirror rather than front. I could put a heater directly behind the fan too… Or even a fan in the tube side (but its a feeble tube anyway and I would rather not weaken it).

Alternatively: I could nearly seal up the tube when not observing and use a Raspberry Pi to monitor the mirror and tube temps (air proxy) with IR sensors and, if need be turn on the heaters and fans accordingly.

An RPi and 12V fan doesn’t use much power and if it worked I could try one of the RPi Zeros instead. I doubt if the heater would be on for long – especially if the tube is insulated. The Rpi would generate a little of its own heat but I have no idea how they cope with sub zero temps.

Has anyone else tried anything like this. What do Planewave and Celestron do with their dew control approaches?