Moon solves Hubble tension

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  • #609417
    Andrew Smith
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    This https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.16551 was published today claiming a solution to the Hubble tension by using the recession of the moon from the earth. Regards Andrew

    #609432
    Paul Leyland
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    One of several such papers uploaded today.

    #609543
    Steve Holmes
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    An interesting paper but unfortunately total nonsense. I am preparing a detailed rebuttal but that is not top of my ToDo List currently – watch this space!

    #609546
    Robin Leadbeater
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    I am preparing a detailed rebuttal but that is not top of my ToDo List currently – watch this space!

    Its OK the deadline is not until 1st April 2023

    #609550
    Steve Holmes
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    Yes, it would be nice to think that (as you imply) this was simply a “Poisson d’Avril” but a quick literature search indicates that it’s not the first time that such an “explanation” has been put forward, apparently seriously, and of course (as current world affairs have shown only too shockingly) even the most outrageous mis-information will be believed, and spread, by somebody. The fact that in this case the mis-information is in the form of a scientific (or perhaps I should say pseudo-scientific) paper submitted to arxiv will tend to lead credence to the “research” even though it was published on 1st April and so I felt I should counter the arguments made so at least readers of the Forum who are not perhaps au fait with cosmological ideas will not be deceived.

    As previously stated – watch this space!

    #609552
    Andrew Smith
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    Glad to see at least some members have a sense of humour. Regards Andrew

    #609553
    Jeremy Shears
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    While composing your rebuttal, Steve, you might like to munch a Jaffa biscuit: https://arxiv.org/abs/2103.16575

    #609554
    Steve Holmes
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    Superb! Thanks for bringing this item to the attention of a wider readership Jeremy. Understated humour and irony coupled with (apparent) scientific rigour is clearly a winner! And, most importantly, the correct conclusion is reached – which I would be celebrating with one of the famous cakes were it not for the fact that I currently do not have any in stock. A Digestive cake biscuit is thus having to suffice.

    #609557
    Daryl Dobbs
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    While composing your rebuttal, Steve, you might like to munch a Jaffa biscuit: https://arxiv.org/abs/2103.16575

    No doubt listing to the Max Jaffa orchestra at the same time.

    Do we have the embryo of a new BAA section the Jaffa Section as clearly there is a lot of research to be done especially with the variation of recipe’s around.

    #609560
    Steve Holmes
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    Right then – here it is! “Hubble Tension Refuted” – without recourse to the consumption of orange flavoured cakes (sic!) or listening to famous bandleaders of the same name. However, even sticking to the salient points the discourse turned out to be quite long so I am presenting it as an attached PDF rather than “inline”. I hope this will not discourage interested members from reading it however – comments are welcomed and invited!

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    #609563
    Paul Leyland
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    Daryl wrote in https://britastro.org/forums/topic/moon-solves-hubble-tension#post-609557

    Do we have the embryo of a new BAA section the Jaffa Section as clearly there is a lot of research to be done especially with the variation of recipe’s around

    The Oxford University Astronomical Society conducted a great deal of research into the physics of the Jaffa Cake back in the 70’s and early 80’s. I can still remember some of the results and perhaps there are other ex-OUAS members of that era who are now BAA members.

    I seem to remember that the symmetry of the ground state ensemble was something like quintuplet-N-27/2 with at least four excited states known. The Jaffa Cake is not a fundamental particle in that it has substructure composed of chocons, jamons and cakons, the last of which decay into crumbons.

    It is a great pity that this topic came up too late for Heather Couper to contribute. I am certain that she partook in that research.

    #609565
    Andrew Smith
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    Nice rebuttal. I especially like the claim to non-linearity always effective in my view.
    Regards Andrew

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