# Novae Cas and Per 2020 H alpha at medium resolution

Forums Spectroscopy Novae Cas and Per 2020 H alpha at medium resolution

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Taken on the same night using the LHIRES and 1200l/mm grating added to my personal page

#583439
Dr Andrew Smith
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Very modern using nm. Fine observations.

Regards

#583440
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Actually I debated that briefly. The wavelength range in the images is approximate as the dispersion is non linear and it is a crop and I could not be bothered to work out the exact wavelengths to the nearest Angstrom.  I used nm as 10 Angstrom was close enough 🙂

#583441
Stewart John Bean
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I was taught in Angstrom but adapted to nm in my professional life. You get used to anything in the end.

Stewart

#583451
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nm I can cope with (though the need to include a decimal point when defining well known lines is ugly). It is the use of Janskys for flux in optical spectra instead of the traditional (but definitely not SI) erg/cm2/sec/Angstrom that really throws me when I see it as being based on frequency, it completely changes the shape of the spectrum.

#583467
Dr Paul Leyland
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I used cm^-1 as an energy unit for a few years when doing my DPhil research.

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Dr Paul Leyland
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(though the need to include a decimal point when defining well known lines is ugly)

I know what you mean.  It is so much prettier to write 5889.950Å and 5895.924Å than 588.9950nm  and 589.5924nm. It means you get to use a non-ASCII character.  😉

To be serious now: my work was done with a spectrograph with a resolution in excess of 300,000.  The sodium D lines were separated by about a centimetre at the focal plane. Decimal points were essential, even when using wavenumbers (cm^-1) because the centroids of narrow lines could often be measured to better than 0.01cm^-1.

#583475
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I mean for identification (ie shorthand to identify the line in question) not for stating the measured wavelength. (I can measure that to a precision of up to 0.01A). In papers on astrophysics you only need to say for example Na 5890, Na 5896,  He 6678, DIB 6613 etc for the reader to know the line you are talking about.  That’s what I meant by avoiding the ugly decimal point.

#583493
Philip Masding
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I tried taking a spectrum of the nova and got an apparent emission feature between  H beta and H gamma. Very similar to David Strange’s result now in the recent images page. Is this feature real?

#583494
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Yes it is real. I also see it in a Star Analyser spectrum I took a couple of days ago. It is a blend of several lines ~4500-4600A unresolved at the Star Analyser resolution Here it is overlaid on a spectrum from David Boyd in the BAA database (red)

(It looks quite intense relative to H gamma because H lines are narrow compared with the Star Analyser resolution so are reduced in  height)

Cheers

Robin

#583498
Philip Masding
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Hi Robin,

Thanks for you reply. Nice to know my observation and processing hadn’t created a spurious result! I’ve attached my result.

Cheers
Phil

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