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  • #574361
    Mark Salisbury
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    Hi, I’m hoping to tap into your collective wisdom to help me find a suitable eclipsing binary target to be observed simultaneously from an observatory in the UK (51N, 01E) and Teide observatory (28N, 344E).  The aim is to observe a suitable target with several telescopes to determine the relative timing precision achievable.  To enable this I am looking for a star that is;

    1. Visible during night hours in July/August from both the observatory locations with the lowest possible airmass.

    2. Is bright enough to enable high cadence imaging with ~0.4m telescopes.

    3. Has a short period ideally of just a few hours to allow observation on any clear, short Summer night.

    4. Has a sharply defined eclipse to provide a small timing measurement uncertainty.

    A target like the post common envelope binary NYVir would be ideal but at a higher altitude from the UK than Virgo?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Mark

    #581199
    Paul Leyland
    Participant

    Have you downloaded the complete GCVS?  If so a preliminary selection based on a minimum Dec, a plausible range of RA and a type of EA, EB, … will give you an initial range of candidates.

    What do you consider high-cadence? Minutes, seconds or milliseconds?

    My 0.4m telescope (located only about 100km from El Teide) could manage a very few millimags precision (unfiltered CCD, so approximately Gaia G band) down to mag 11.5 with a cadence of around a minute as demonstrated with an observation of an exoplanet transit.

    In fact, why don’t you try for an exoplanet transit?  Not only do you get your differential timing data, you also add to our knowedge of exoplanets.  The minimum may be wide but the ingress and egress events are short-lived and it’s generally possible to observe both in a single session.

    Would you like me to join in perhaps, weather permitting?  It’s been unusually cloudy in these parts of late.  I also need to get the new camera commissioned first but I hope that doesn’t take too long.

    #581200
    Eric Watkins
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    I collaborate with a BAA team working on post common envelope SdB type binaries.  I’ve alerted them to your request, I’m sure we can provide you with a target from our list.

    Eric

    #581201
    David Pulley
    Participant

    Hi Mark

    NY Vir has an issue.  It pulsates and so affects measurement accuracy.  Could try NSVS14256825 which has a +4 degree dec.  HS0705+6700 is visible from mid August with dec of 66 degrees.

    Regards

    David

    #581202
    Eliot Hall
    Participant

    You could try using my website https://eclipsingstars.org/ to search for observable candidates.  You can’t specify future dates; however can update observing sites and look stars available tonight for all your sites.

    Eliot

    #581259
    Richard Miles
    Participant

    Mark – I did a search for a suitable asteroid candidate but only came up with 321 Florentina 15th magnitude P=2.87 h  Ampl.=0.31-0.52 mag. So there would be a minimum every 1.5 hours or so.

    This doesn’t really become accessible until late September / early October. It reaches opposition in December at mag 13.8.

    Richard

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