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  • #636793
    Alex Pratt
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    NASA is getting into gear to have lots of coverage of this mission:

    https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-sets-coverage-for-first-artemis-crewed-mission-around-moon/

    You can also register as a ‘virtual attendee’ and receive mission updates, resource material, etc to your e-mail Inbox:

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/nasas-artemis-ii-mission-launch-registration-1074571685839?aff=vgotsite

    (Link takes you to Eventbrite for a free ‘launch ticket’)

    There’s also a link to track the Orion craft in space:

    https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis-ii/arow/

    although I guess this will be a graphic of the mission’s progress rather than astrometric-quality coordinates such as:

    https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/

    or Bill Gray’s Project Pluto:

    https://www.projectpluto.com/

    which will publish ephemerides after the spacecraft has left Earth orbit.

    Alex.

    #636800
    Nick James
    Participant

    If the launch takes place as currently planned (April 1, 22:24 UTC) we may be able to see the Trans-Lunar Injection Burn from the UK 25 hours 37 minutes later so around 2026-04-03 00:01 UTC although the spacecraft will be low above the SW horizon. An ephemeris is available from JPL Horizons.

    From Chelmsford the spacecraft rises around 23:49 on April 2 and at the time of TLI it will be 10 deg up at an azimuth of 209 deg.

    Almost 60 years ago, on 1968 December 21, Chris Taylor saw the Apollo 8 TLI from Chelmsford. There is a really good S&T write-up here:

    https://skyandtelescope.org/stargazing-and-observing/stargazers-corner/apollo-8-view/

    I would like to reproduce that observation!

    #636806
    Alex Pratt
    Participant

    Good luck with that project, Nick. (Looks like more clouds and rain for me).

    Yes, JPL Horizons now have ephemeris details for the mission:

    https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons/app.html#/

    Edit Target Body to be Artemis II
    Select a Location or MPC observatory code
    Select a Start Time after 2026-04-02 01:47:08
    Select a Stop Time and Step interval
    (Times are UTC)
    Click Generate Ephemeris

    Alex.

    #636823
    Nick Quinn
    Participant

    Unfortunately this post on Seesat-L: http://satobs.org/seesat/Mar-2026/0111.html highlights a change to the mission timeline as posted on JPL Horizons. The TLI burn is now scheduled from MET 1d 01:08 for 8 minutes, i.e. April 2 23:32 – 23:40 with the spacecraft still below the UK horizon (based on a launch at April 1 22:24hrs.

    Earth shadow entry is at 23:54hrs with the spacecraft at 7 degs elevation from the Sussex coast, so even an observation of a propellant dump is going to be just about impossible. A launch later in the window won’t change the visibility of the TLI burn for the UK and probably moves it into the Earth’s shadow – although perhaps a 1.5/2 hour delay moves any fuel dump back into sunlight?

    #636824
    Nick James
    Participant

    That’s a shame, but it was going to be a difficult observation anyway. Still worth keeping an eye on the launch time and ephemeris for interesting opportunities from the UK.

    #636842
    Steve Knight
    Participant

    Help required. When I use Horizons to generate RA and Dec for the 23.43 UT TLI burn RA and Dec are 49 degrees below horizon with it rising 10 hours later. I am obviously doing something stupid. I just don’t know what!

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    #636844
    Nick Quinn
    Participant

    The table is correct: the burn takes place well below our horizon. If you run the predictions past 23:50hrs. you should see it rise at about 00:07hrs (on the 3rd). I’m not sure where you got the 10 hours from!

    #636845
    Steve Knight
    Participant

    Copy that Nick! Situation now nominalish, duhh, I was looking at rise time of RA and Dec when burn started and finished. Can you pull out of the Ephemeris when Artemis in Earths shadow?

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 6 days ago by Steve Knight.
    #636846
    Grant Privett
    Participant

    That is entirely my mistake I fear – see other Artemis thread.

    JPL Horizons currently gives:

    Rises above 10 degs 00:17 UTC
    Culminates (15.07) 00:52 UTC
    Drops below 10 degs 03:42 UTC

    JPL says launch was at 22:35:12UTC

    It further says “Launch + 1/01:08 – Star Translunar Injection Burn”

    I read that as 1day + 1hour+8min or 23:43 UTC but somehow converted it to 00:43 BST – a dumb BST/UTC mess up on my part.

    Apologies to all.

    We will miss the burn, but it will reach 15 degrees from the south coast!

    Lets hope it stays clear.

    #636889
    Nick Quinn
    Participant

    Can you pull out of the Ephemeris when Artemis in Earths shadow?

    I don’t think you can; unless somebody knows otherwise!

    #636892
    Steve Knight
    Participant

    Incredible image by Reid Wiseman of moonlit Earth after TLI burn. South at top (of course). Aurora and Zodiacal light visible. Is that Venus bottom right?

    https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/hello-world/

    #636893
    Steve Knight
    Participant

    I think that is Venus. Rotated image so north is at top and tried matching objects. Alas Mercury seems to be behind our planet.

    #636895
    Dr Paul Leyland
    Participant

    I think that is Venus. Rotated image so north is at top and tried matching objects. Alas Mercury seems to be behind our planet.

    Hey, you can see my house from there!

    Well, La Palma anyway. Tenerife and Gran Canaria show up particularly well, likely because the former still has snow on Teide which fell from storm Therese whereas the latter, as the name suggests, is the biggest of the Canary Islands. El Roque, on La Palma, also has snow on it which is why La Palma is easily visible despite it being relatively small.

    Incidentally, that storm dumped 419mm of rain on me which is about nine months typical rainfall. A significant amount came through the roof and ceiling. 8-(

    #636901
    Nick James
    Participant

    That really is a beautiful image. The full-sized image is here:

    https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000192/art002e000192~orig.jpg

    the EXIF suggests that this was taken using a Nikon D5, 22mm, f/4, 1/4s, ISO 51200. Apollo 8 had the famous Earthrise photo. I think this is better.

    #636903
    Alex Pratt
    Participant

    Hi all,

    There’s interesting astrometry, images and discussion threads on MPML (Minor Planet Mailing List, archive visible to anyone)

    https://groups.io/g/mpml/topic/astrometry_for_artemis_ii_and/118627349

    https://groups.io/g/mpml/topic/artemis_movie/118648043

    Caveat emptor – I never follow links to so-called ‘social media’ especially requiring logins, passwords, tracking me etc, so I can’t comment on those.

    Alex.

    #636926
    Alex Pratt
    Participant

    The Moon certainly looks strange and unfamiliar as viewed by Artemis II as we see more of the ‘far side’ features.

    Alex.

    #636961
    Alex Pratt
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