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  • #574686
    Jeremy Shears
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    According to ATel 13904, the 12.9mag (unfiltered with V zero-point) optical transient TCP J00114297+6611190 was identified on 2020-07-27.9302 UT by S. & K. Korotkiy and spectroscopically confirmed as a Fe II type classical nova on 2020-07-29.025 with the 2.5m Sternberg Astronomical Institute telescope by the team of Kirill Sokolovsky.

    Nova Cas 2020 has coordinates (J2000.0): R.A. 00 11 42.96 Decl. +66 11 20.8

    Observations and spectroscopy urgently required. An AAVSO chart and sequence are available.

    #582943
    Jeremy Shears
    Participant

    David Swan has an image on his Members page of the nova taken last night.

    I’ve seen CCD and Vis observations from the early hours of this morning (30th) placing it between mag 13.5 and 13.9.

    #582944
    David Swan
    Spectator

    For some reason the uploaded pic has come out a bit dark. It is, I suspect, something to do with the fact that I saved the image first as a png in Maxim. The file was still a bit large though, so I opened that in Photoshop and did a web compression. I’ll have a look this eve at putting something slightly better up. I also need to test whether the boxcar or the bayer pane setting for flat calibration works best with this particular calibration frame set.

    Anyway, I was keen to have a look at the nova! I am actually planning to revisit low res spectroscopy with the StarAnalyser in a much more rigorous way: dark and flat calibration and then instrument response correction using a standard star at a similar altitude.

    #582945
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Hi David,

    I would not bother attempting flat correction of slitless spectra. Normal flat correction techniques do not work because each point is a mix of spectral and spatial information. (The technique used on professional setups is complex and involves generating effectively a “flat cube”  for each wavelength at each point in the field.) My advice would be to take a conventional flat beforehand to check for any obvious dust donuts etc and place your target and reference star zero orders as near as possible on the same pixel avoiding any dust spots so any gross flat effects eg vignetting etc cancel.

    Cheers

    Robin

    #582946
    David Swan
    Spectator

    Thanks Robin, I’ll do as you advise. Here’s a not so egregiously black-clipped image. I’ll have a look at the pixel brightness values to see if I can get anything reliable from the green pane.

    #582950
    Nick James
    Participant

    https://britastro.org/node/23563. I get 12.6 unfiltered last night using Gaia DR2 G mags. 

    #582952
    David Boyd
    Participant

    Here is a spectrum of Nova Cas 2020 recorded with a LISA spectrograph on a C11 SCT and calibrated in absolute flux using a concurrently measured magnitude of V = 13.395. Using PlotSpectra, the integrated absolute flux of the H-alpha and H-beta lines are 3.53E-12 and 2.52E-13 erg/cm2/sec respectively. These results are consistent with the values 3.54E-12 and 2.54E-13 reported in ATel 13905. The apparent FWHM of the H-alpha line is 508 km/s and there is evidence of weak P Cyg absorption on the blue side of H-alpha extending to -800 km/s relative to the peak of emission. There are also emission lines of Fe II 5018, Fe II 5169, [O I] 5577 and an unidentified emission line at ~6160 A.

    David

    #582953
    Gary Poyner
    Participant

    My first opportunity to see Nova Cas ’20.  In a grotty sky using the AAVSO sequence, visual 13.4 on Jly 30.938.

    The first Nova (detected) in Cassiopeia since V723 Cas (Nova 1995), which is still visible around 16.5 mag.

    Gary

    #582954
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Here is the region from H beta and redwards covering the “Fe curtain” region at R~1950 with the LHIRES and 600l/mm grating

    The H beta FWHM is ~360km/s after correcting for the spectrograph resolution but there may be some higher velocities redwards in the line profiles

    Cheers

    Robin

    #582958
    Lars Lindhard
    Participant

    I saw the nova last night and estimated the mag. to 12.7. 

    #582961
    Gary Poyner
    Participant

    Yes Lars, it looks as if it’s getting a little brighter.  I had 13.0 visual in a cloud break just after dark last night (31st)

    Gary

    #582964
    David Swan
    Spectator

    Excellent, thanks Stewart. I’m waiting on clear skies to acquire a low res spectrum of the object. At this brightness, it should be doable with my scope.

    #582963
    Stewart John Bean
    Participant

    I find the following from this morning using T5 (250 mm) in New Mexico at JD 2459062.902. I used AstroimageJ

    With V filter, nova was 12.9 using 11.2 ,14.3, and 12.6, reference stars in AAVSO chart

    With R filter, nova was 12.4 using 12.6 in AAVSO chart

    With B filter, nova was 13.3 using 12.6 and 13.7 in AAVSO chart

    Seems quite bright through the red filter. Stewart

    #582971
    Stewart John Bean
    Participant

    I make it 11.8 mag through V filter this morning, Aug 5th at 01 :43. (T18, Nerpio, Spain.)

    I make it 11.1 mag through the R filter.

    For both measurements the reference star was 11.2 on the AAVSO chart. I’ll try to get these uploaded via Muniwin once I get the hang of it.

    #582982
    David Swan
    Spectator

    I took images last night through a V filter and measured a calibrated stack in Maxim (AAVSO X25582AO) 

    N Cas 2020 measured 11.548 CCD-V

    REF 112 set 11.186

    CHK 126 measured 12.599

    #582999
    John Coffin
    Participant

    This is a spectrum from the early hours of 12th August. It looks very different from those of the 30th and 31st July in this thread. The H alpha line is much reduced and there appears to be a P Cygni profile, presumably due to expansion of the nova. I haven’t tried to identify the other broad absorption features. I would be interested in other people’s comments on what this spectrum tells us about the evolution of the nova. I see from the database that others have also noticed the changing profile.

    #583000
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Hi John,

    There was an excellent detailed commentary on the evolution of nova spectra by Prof Steve Shore during the Nova Del 2013 ARAS campaign here

    http://www.astrosurf.com/aras/novae/Nova2013Del.html

    He has also issued an ATel on the current nova based on amateur spectra

    http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=13939

    Cheers

    Robin

    #583019
    John Coffin
    Participant

    Thanks Robin, very useful.

    John

    #583020
    Gary Poyner
    Participant

    Observations from last night and this morning suggest Nova Cas is rebrightening after a very short four day decline.

    At this stage the light curve resembles several other Nova I have observed over the years – V1493 Aql (N Aql 1999#1), V2274 Cyg (N Cyg 2001) and the Fe II Nova V2362 Cyg (N Cyg 2006), although the time scales of fading and rebrightening are different.

    The light curve below is from visual observations and unfiltered CCD from SLOOH.  Thank goodness for remote scopes – the night sky here in Brum has been very cloudy of late, although I did have a forty minute gap last night (17th).

    Gary

    #583022
    John Coffin
    Participant

    The H alpha line has become very prominent again and the P Cygni profile has disappeared. There appear to be emission lines for Fe II, He I and [O I]. The spectrum was recorded around midnight on 18th/19th August with an Alpy 600 and the resolution is ~ 550.

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