Preparing for the next eruption of T CrB

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    Robin Leadbeater
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    Here is the latest “prediction”
    https://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=17784
    Though given it appears to be based on the same premise as Brad Schaefer’s original (failed) prediction, I don’t think will be rushing down to the bookies !

    Cheers
    Robin

    #639333
    Dr Paul Leyland
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    They note: “While T CrB clearly appears to be in the final stages before its next nova eruption, our analysis of its historical recurrence pattern suggests a significant scatter of at least 10 years around the mean ∼80-year period. Therefore, while an eruption is anticipated, the existing data do not allow for a precise prediction of its timing”.

    Another NR which shows a scatter of about 10% of its mean period is M31N-2008-12a. The period is about one year with variability of about a month. The period so short that several eruptions have been observed.

    The sample size is so small, IMO, that it is impossible to say whether this is typical behaviour.

    Paul

    #639335
    Mike Harlow
    Participant

    Don’t know if this helps but this is the light curve for the last 300 days taken from the AAVSO ‘Light Curve Generator’: https://www.aavso.org/LCGv2/ .
    Any thoughts???
    Mike

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    #639337
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    It does shows that predictions based on the kind of spot measurements taken a year apart quoted in the latest aATel are likely to be misleading. The latest minimum in the orbital cycle is deep though. Here is Chris Peterson’s plot on Cloudy Nights which shows it very clearly
    https://www.cloudynights.com/forums/topic/932002-blaze-star-t-coronae-borealis-starting-to-blow/page/15/#findComment-14658109

    Cheers
    Robin

    #639338
    Hugh Allen
    Participant

    Thanks Mike for preparing this light curve comparison. The spectrum has shown interesting changes too over this date range (see attached comparison 2025 Aug 14 v 2026 May 10). The emission line changes have been much discussed. But in agreement with the light curves you have compiled from AAVSO data, the spectrum seems to have reddened significantly. It now diverges signifcantly from the shape of the spectrum of del Vir which I think is considered a template M3III type star, the spectral type of the red giant in the T CrB system. I wonder too what is occurring?

    #639340
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Hi Hugh,

    It is complicated by the fact that the hot continuum spectrum of the accreting material is superimposed on the cool star spectrum but I have seen signs that the best fit cool star spectral type once the hot component continuum is removed may vary from M3III in high activity to M4III in low activity based on TiO band depths. See attached slides. (Here I was removing the cool star component to try to see the underlying spectrum of the accreting material)

    Cheers
    Robin

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