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Grant PrivettParticipant
Am curious.
What is it people generally use AIP4WIN for?
Which parts of the image/data process is it seen as essential for?
There are obviously alternatives for much of what it does.
Grant PrivettParticipantYep. Defect pixels are those that cannot be relied on: being either too sensitive, too insensitive or just plain whacky in their behaviour. When a chip contains that many pixels its not surprising that a few are not perfect.
I also tend to create my defect map using the master dark. I measure the standard deviation and image background (Statistics option if using AstroArt) of the dark and then set the threshold at background + 5 x standarddev. The Starlight 694 I use doesn’t have many defective pixels and that usually cleans them up. My approach is overkill perhaps, but its adaptive and does lend itself to processing automation – I still sometimes use the Starlink CCDPACK image reduction system under Linux.
But if you always use the same camera temperature and binning, then a hardwired threshold derived by experiment should be fine – as Robin has found.
Grant PrivettParticipantIt is usually the case that the best way to change an organisation, is from within. Why not stand for Council?
Alternatively, write a paper correcting the perceived error or start a thread here.
Its worth remembering that your suggestion opens the way to the vindictive pedant whose only pleasure is criticism – and astronomy has some of those. We’ve seen it in the past. Its not fun to watch.
Grant PrivettParticipantTake your point. 1100 announced 2011. The 70D in 2013.
Also agree that the handling of noise is important. The later Canon DIGICs do seem better at that.
Anyone out there with new and shiny cameras willing to try the same thing and share the results?
Grant PrivettParticipantWith a little filtering and a comparatively small aperture, its suprisingly easy. I recall an afternoon session at the Cody Society using their 150mm F15 to spot stars of 4th magnitude (hard) and 3rd magnitude (pretty easy) when looking at the darker parts of a blue sky. The scope wasnt GOTO, but did allow very good manual pointing accuracy.
Grant PrivettParticipantWish there had been some initiative like this available in1994 when CCD imaging was just becoming available to amateurs.
Or was there and I just didnt notice?
Grant PrivettParticipantWas it just me, or is the point spread function for the “event” tighter than that of the moon seen on the extreme image right?
Any dusty debris seen by imagers subsequently?
Grant PrivettParticipantWell you certainly cannot rely on the Bayer matrix to do the filtering. On a Lumix I own theres enough leakage of light to take a photo during the day with a filter that cuts off light at a shorter wavelength than 820nm. Green lawns look like snow!
In the UK – given its dirty and humid atmosphere – hard UV certainly isnt a problem (well, it didnt seem to be for me) though the definition of where the UV starts and blue ends may vary and the big worry is how fast a refractors focus goes to pot as you move toward the blue – may get bad sooner than you think.
But even with reflective optics, the colour balance will still be off as the blue and green images will still contain a contribution from the near infrared – that can blur out fine contrast features.
Personally, if the camera already has a blocker but you have a professional quality blocker to hand its worth experimenting using the camera with both filters, your professional filter only and with only the in-camera filter and comparing. You do have to be very certain of your filter quality.
Grant PrivettParticipantSorry Martin. Just for once I reckon you are wrong. I reckon I have a book out that sells slower than yours.
Was impressed by the fact it was on a russian free download site and on one of the US rent-telescope time type sites as a pdf before I even had a hard copy in my hand.
I’m amazed anyone ever writes any books anymore.
Grant PrivettParticipantI think you will find that laser ranging sites like Herstmonceux do not issue NOTAMs every night they work. I believe they operate by always having staff with the system and making sure the sky is clear of aircraftby visual inspection while the laser is active.
Their laser is a tad brighter than those most people use at star parties.
Grant PrivettParticipantNo reason at all you cannot do photometry this way. Keep the exposure short, position the target at the field centre and use a comparison star close to it and if the flat fielding and dark subtraction is okay you will get good results.
Of course DSLRs are a bit noisy, so combined with the use of a short xposure it can mean a lot of exposures are needed.
Grant PrivettParticipantSilly question: is the sensor interlaced and was a dark frame subtraction applied?
Grant PrivettParticipantThere goes that theory 🙂
Grant PrivettParticipantIs the camera doing any running stacking of the images in the background?
Grant PrivettParticipantIn Wiltshire, not far from Salisbury Plain, there were some tasteful high altitude wisps of cloud before the penumbral stages, but by the time the eclipse was underway they had mainly melted away leaving a clear, if not very transparent, sky.
As the night went on and the temperature dropped to 3C some mist started to form, but this was mainly near watercourses. Pretty nearly ideal conditions.
A dark eclipse with an orange tinge. If my blood looked that colour, I would see a doctor quick!
I didnt think any colour was apparent until the umbral phases. Is that the general perception or is my colour vision poor?
Grant PrivettParticipantI thought you meant databases there for a moment!
Yep, I have used one, but the master must be Bob Mizon surely.
Grant PrivettParticipantIsnt Dirk Maggs the guy who did the Radio adaption of Douglas Adams “Long Dark Teatime of the Soul” and the Pratchett/Gaiman “Good Omens”? Both are quite fun.
Just remember its entertainment, not art or history.
Grant PrivettParticipantDeeply jealous of Nick’s Svalbard Valley shot. A nice picture in its own right – eclipse or not.
Grant PrivettParticipantSaw the forecast had a gap in the clouds forecast near Yeovil, so I drove there from Salisbury and it seemed to be about the same as at home – awful. So, as I was an hour from a friends house in Exeter I went on to there. Was down to 0.5 mile visibility in Monkton and some street lights were on in Exeter as I arrived. Gaps appeared as I sat in a traffic jam at eclipse maximum (aaargh). So I parked in the Co-Op car park, took some snaps and then went on to my friends home where we sat on his doorstep eating toast, drinking coffee and watching the eclipse through gaps in the cloud. Very civilised.
Turned out that it cleared at home! So I could have saved myself driving the 170 mile round trip.
Managed one decent image with the handheld compact camera from the Co-Op though…
Grant PrivettParticipantHi there,
Sorry to take so long to post.
I had one of these for a review a while ago. Appeared in Astronomy Now I think. My memory of the equipment was that the tube was luggable, would go nicely on an HEQ5 and yielded good clean images. I liked it – though the focuser was only just adequate – and quite heavy. It made a very affordable alternative to the hideously overpriced ED or triplet refractors that are unable to bring all the light to focus at one point, giving it an edge in creating luminance images.
I think the PDS needs to be used with something like a Baader coma corrector when combined with a large CCD sensor, but there was minimal coma seen when imaging with a Starlight H18.
Obviously, the secondary mirror supports generate diffraction spikes around bright stars, but brought up in the pre-SCT era I have no problem with that.
I rather fancy a 300PDS. Would be okay on my EQ6 Pro. 🙂
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