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Stewart John BeanParticipant
Looking at the last superoutburst graph ( up this forum on Jan 12th ), I see that there was quite a gap between the last normal and the normal outburst that led to the superoutburst. Immediately after a superoutburst the normals come every 3 – 4 days. Later they seem to be separated by 5-6 days. In the graph on the 12th Jan, it seems that there was a 7 day separation between the last two normals.
On this basis the next normal might be on the 12th. This one might trigger the superoutburst. If so it will be 5 days late relative to the recent long term average.
Stewart John BeanParticipantRobin , How bright does a star need to be to obtain a decent S/N ratio spectrum?
IX Dra is a bit faint perhaps, but ER Uma is brighter (V mag 13 maximum and better placed for observations ) and also approaching a superoutburst. See Discussion Forum on ER Uma and RZ Lmi.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantI got ER Uma at 13.44 at 2021/01/06 05:06:59 from AAVSOnet
ER Uma is showing increasing bright normal outbursts. Should be in a superoutburst during the next 10 days based upon a 45-50 day period.
RZ Lmi at 16.7 at 2021/01/06 05:18:54 again from AAVSOnet. Will be in superoutburst shortly as its period is only ~ 20 days.
Stewart John BeanParticipantT05 New Mexico gave 17.27 this morning at 2459222.01.
So still in a low state. Graeme Coates measured it at 16.0 on the 5th which may have been the peak of the last normal outburst. So that may mean another 3 days wait.
Stewart John BeanParticipantSorry Robin : DSS? I’m too new to this topic
I did get an image at 5:30am local from New Mexico and estimate V mag 17.1 +_0.33.
So we seem to observed a normal outburst at mag 16 on the 5th at 2459220.29 recorded by Graeme Coates.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantI am on a couple telescopes in New Mexico in few hours time. Had no luck with itel Spain owing to “roof closed”: clouded out.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantI also got Mag 15 on Jan4 from New Mexico AAVSO BSM NM2.
The only TESS record happens to show the approach to a superoutburst. The normal outbursts are ‘peaky’ or ‘trianglular’ at least compared to IX Da and RZ Lmi.
Stewart John BeanParticipantThat could be the last minimum before the superoutburst begins.
Stewart John BeanParticipantLast night’s result from AAVSOnet gave a V Mag of 13.5. Er Uma has displayed a series of gradually more intense normal outbursts. It is now 40 days since the start of the last superoutburst.
With a supercycle length of around 45-50 days in the present epoch the next superoutburst may occur shortly. The graph below shows how the supercycle period has varied over the last 200 cycles (27 years).
Previous superoutbursts have reached Mag 12.5.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantThe next superoutburst is expected in the first half of January.
IX Dra is now quite a difficult object for the USA based AAVSOnet telescopes that I have been able to use so far, although a couple of AAVSO observers ( Sweden and Virginia, USA) do seem to have reasonable northerly aspects and continue to report. AAVSOnet SRO Arizona is out of service at this time with a failed camera.
UK observers benefit from their higher latitude compared to the USA, but IX Dra has a very low elevation at this time of year.
If anyone can help for the period from Jan 1st to Jan 15th to capture the start of the superoutburst it would be appreciated. The most likely date for the start is in the middle of the window above – with the usual uncertainties.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantER Uma was at 14.7 last night down from 12.8 at maximum 13 days ago. So that superoutburst has been completed. The superoutburst period is around 40-50 days so about this time next month could be the next one.
RZ Lmi is in quiescence following a normal outburst on 3 Dec. The next superoutburst is due shortly as its super period is only about 20 days.
Stewart John BeanParticipantI was taught in Angstrom but adapted to nm in my professional life. You get used to anything in the end.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantThe November superoutburst is over, a return to quiescence at mag 17 and then a rise to 15.9 has been reported by AAVSO observers.
Stewart John BeanParticipantRZ Lmi was 14.26 at 2020/11/24 11:06:56 UT
ER Uma was at 12.8 at 2020/11/24 11:13:38 UT
Both were measured using AAVSOnet.
Stewart John BeanParticipantSRO telescope , Arizona gave 15.3 at 1:33:8.35 UT on November 16, 2020.
Those recorded by TESS were about 10 days in duration from when the first superhumps appeared to getting back to quiescence at mag 17.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantIX Dra has been interesting for a newcomer like myself. It changes every five days or so and puts in a bright superoutburst fairly regularly. Following IX Dra might be a good New Years resolution.
I am going to follow ( from my desk as I do not have my own telescope) other UGER stars that are high in the morning sky: ER Uma, RZ Lmi, and DI Uma and are starting their observing season. These are also evolving fast enough to be rewarding. Gary Poyner recommended RZ Lmi as it is a good winter target and it has a superoutburst every ~20 days so there really is something happening every few days.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantThe anticipated superoutburst has been detected. Superhumps are confirmed. I estimate the outburst started at 2459162.5 and should continue for another 10 days or so. I have updated the graph and hope it is fully inclusive for all those have contributed.
The timing of this superoutburst gives an average period for the last 8 outbursts of 59.5 days. This value is close to the last reported value of 58.5+-0.5 from 2010 and suggests that the super outburst period has not really changed in ten years. I will stick my neck out and suggest that the next outburst will start near January 7th.
I think this has been a worthwhile exercise and would wish to thank all who have contributed.
Regards
Stewart Bean
Stewart John BeanParticipantASAS-SN reports IX Dra at magnitude 15.6 in its green channel for 2459162.6 : so back to a high state. When in superoutburst ASAS-SN has recorded magnitudes in the 14.5 to 15 range.
The UK weather forecast seems a bit Novemberish with cloud on all days this week for Cambridgeshire. Fortunately, there is good weather forecast for the AAVSOnet SRO, Arizona telescope for the week ahead.
I’ll keep you posted.
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Stewart John BeanParticipantThe AAVSOnet SRO telescope in Arizona suggested a V mag of 17.7 last night – so a low state.
One week to 10 days to go before the super outburst.
Regards
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Stewart John BeanParticipantThe V filter observations graph below shows the current status as we approach an expected superoutburst in roughly two weeks time. With the frequency of observations achieved during this campaign, it should be possible to time the the superoutburst to within one day. This in turn should allow a fairly precise value for the superoutburst period to compare with literature values. The literature graph below implies a supercycle length of about 65 days for 2020 whilst TESS results, from 2019, suggest 61 days.
The observations below may not be complete so apologies in advance. Six normal outbursts at 5 day intervals have been recorded. The superoutburst is expected to reach 14.5 during November.
Thanks to all contributing.
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