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Stewart John BeanParticipantIan,
Interesting that you are in Spain. One of the challenges is to observe V1159 Ori ( Declination only -3 degrees) around conjunction. The best place would be from the Equator. All my reported observations have been via an AAVSOnet project.
I forgot to use the Slooh Canary 2 (27 deg latitude) instrument this summer for the job – especially as it now has a V filter.VSX gives a period of 90min for V1159 Ori.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantFor V1159 Ori an observer on the equator would be able to fill in, to some extent, the summer gap in observations.
Stewart John BeanParticipantHow do I look up the ZTF code for ER Uma? It will be something like ZTF******* Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantTMO61 (AAVSOnet) just sent their first, if slightly streaky, image. I thought they had forgotten about CG Dra. Hopefully the first of many.
16.7 CV – so mid range.
Stewart John BeanParticipantI get 16.74 CV at
2024/06/29 04:14:01
Slooh Canary 2
Stewart John BeanParticipantGot Slooh Canary 2 booked for this evening.
Stewart John BeanParticipantI have tried to answer my own question without particular success. Certainly gamma ray bursts (GRB) are detected about once per day by satellites. Close supernovae may have caused extinction events and ground based radio astronomy may have a chance. I think it is possible that at a dark site and with a whole sky detector sensitive to green light (from excited N2) you may detect something. I am not going out in a deck chair waiting for a few seconds flash!
The largest GRB so far was GRB 221009A ( on 2022 October 9) which was associated with a supernovae 2 billion light years away. . Search “A Significant Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance Associated with Gamma-Ray Burst GRB 221009A” . https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2515-5172/ac9d2f/meta
The event was detected with a very low frequency radio SuperSID monitor.Are the radio section aware?
Now a recurrent nova is not a supernovae and the radiation is not focussed in our direction, but it is a million times closer so who knows.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantI listened to Brad’s enthusiastic delivery.
~Interesting to think about detecting a neutrino flash. Now I do not have a suitable detector in my back yard, but it triggered the thought:Will the X ray/gamma ray flash be sufficient to be detected as a blue/green scintillation flash from the upper atmosphere?
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipant~I checked that saturation effects are not relevant by using a short exposure of 10 s instead of 45s. The V magnitude is in line with the trend.
So no further to understand why Slooh Chile 2 V produces much lower magnitude values.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantAndrew Pearce has kindly provided me with the three sequences used on each of the telescopes he uses.
I have applied each sequence to the Mar 15 Slooh V image in question and found that all sequences, plus AAVSO, give a Magnitude of 12 or there about. Min is 11.86; max is 11.99.
I will now reply to Andrew with fuller details and share the Mar 15 image with him via Vphot.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantthanks Robin. Redness is probably at the centre of this topic.
Stewart John BeanParticipantI have emailed Andrew Pearce to ask for the sequence he is using.
Stewart John BeanParticipantJeremy,
The image has a JD of …384.896.
Gary Poyner has, I think, taken the ultra wide field ( Y Slooh in his nomenclature) scope image from the same run and obtained Mag 11.6 (V) so that is reassuring. He has done the same the following night and obtained 12.3 .Mazin has marked star 113 as the nova and given different coordinates to VSX. VSX gives 17 39 57.08 -26 27 41.9.
The nova is close by and very red towards 10 o clock.Direct measure of the brightest pixels in my image gives
V4370 113 128
11,000 21,000 4000So I think around Mag 12 is about right for Mar 15.9 but means that there is a two mag difference in V between these results and those from some experienced observers. This is a situation that is unsettling and probably has to do with the redness of the nova. I have not reported my results to AAVSO.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantAh yes. the two competing models. Thanks
Stewart John BeanParticipantGary, Do you know when the next big flare ( smaller black hole punches through the accretion disc) is supposed to be? I cannot work it out from the papers. Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantGot the binoculars out last night – it was clear in Gloucestershire – for the first time. Easy target now in the south at 3am.
Had a look in the TESS archive but only 4 recorded LCs and not currently pointing in the right direction. The LCs are noisy with a slow drift in amplitude reflecting the orbital period.
Stewart Bean
Stewart John BeanParticipantI also watched the webinar last night. I had a look at the TESS data for T CrB later but not too interesting: You see the orbital period and the flickering ( on all timescales). There are only 3 28 day periods that TESS has observed it.
I found the lack of understanding of the “high state” and “secondary brightening” after 100 days post eruption and interesting.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantThe most recent two superoutbursts (JD24598001 and JD2459853) were observed by the TESS satellite giving a very short supercycle period of only 53 days. Analysis of the last 800 days of AAVSO light curve suggests a gradual shortening of the cycle period. I’ll try to write this up in time for the next VSSC.
If the current super outburst cycle is 52 days, we can expect the next superoutburst to start on JD2459905 or about November 20. Again thanks to the, at least, nine BAA members who are following this star.
Stewart
Stewart John BeanParticipantWith a screen shot
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Stewart John BeanParticipantI had a look at the AAVSO curve, dominated by Max’s data of course (impressive). The last period 2459700 to present reminds me of an ER UMa star in that there are two bright outbursts with a series of smaller ones between. The brighter outbursts seem to be 70 days apart.
There are no TESS observations unfortunately.
Ive added it to my SLOOH watch list for Canary.
Stewart
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