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Meteor spectrum 2018 Aug 11 @ 02:26UT

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Meteor spectrum 2018 Aug 11 @ 02:26UT

Bright meteor from the early hours of this morning.

Spectrum also captured.

https://youtu.be/d37akGA6grA

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Michael.

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Meteor spectrum 2018 Aug 11 @ 02:26UT

Great spectrum capture Michael with a good number of lines identified! And with the added bonus of the Pleiades in the image background :-)

Andy

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Also detected from Ravensmoor

Hi Michael,

Very nice indeed. Picked that one up on the all-sky camera from Ravensmoor in Cheshire. Single station analysis pegs it as a -4.2 Perseid. Will send the files separately for triangulation analysis.

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William

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Hi,

Hi,

The 8/9 and 10/11 Aug 2018 provided some good results. 31 spectra over both nights. This is the best Perseid (so far, maybe it'll be clear tonight... ;-))

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Here is the instrument corrected spectrum graph.

Note: I've cropped the O and N lines from the atmosphere, in the near IR. I've also binned by 3 to smooth out the de-slanting artifacts but probably at the loss of some small lines (mostly Fe).

It's always re-assuring to see similar results from other observers. However there are two lines (or maybe very close bands) that I have not been able to tie down. I've got these on lots of Perseids from the last several years. Not sure what the bumps are around the Na line.... Could be any of several but at this resolution it's difficult to be absolutely certain.

I also got a small section of this same meteor on another system. Almost perfect dispersion too... Still to process that one.

cheers,

Bill.

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instrument correction

Bill,

How did you carry out your instrument correction?

I thin thinking of adjusting the settings in the camera to stack the images and use Vega as a standard reference.

Alternatively, I could try a sodium street lamp I guess.

Michael.

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Michael,

Michael,

It's easy enough to do but a pain to describe....

There are tutorials on the RSpec site (looks like that's the package your using).

Also take a look on the Visual Spec site (http://astrosurf.com/vdesnoux/) , there's a comprehensive tutorial using Vega. That's the technique I use. I much prefer working with Visual Spec and IRIS. They don't have the slick interface but I like the command line method, makes you think about what your doing.

cheers,

Bill.

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Instrument response of wide field objective grating spectra

Flux calibrating these spectra even in relative flux is not trivial. Yes the standard method to correct for instrument response and extinction using a reference star measurement is ok in principle but there are a few extra things to watch out for which make it tricky when using this technique with wide field moving targets like this. Specifically flat fielding, background subtraction and differential extinction. 

Flat field correction of any slitless spectra is complex as each point in the field is a combination of zero orders and diffracted light from other points in the field so there is no one to one correspondence like in conventional flats. In practise this is effectively impossible to untangle. With static targets you can get round this problem by measuring the reference and target spectra in the same position in the field, which is the way I recommend using the Star Analyser for example but this is obviously not possible for meteors of course so my suggestion would be to take a series of spectra of a bright standard star at different locations in the field and asses exactly how much effect it has on the spectrum. If the spectrum shape varies significantly then some allowance has to be made for this depending on the location of the meteor spectrum.

Similarly sky background subtraction is difficult compared with narrow field fixed targets where the sky can be measured directly above and below the spectrum.  Perhaps this is not too much of a problem for short exposure videos of meteors though where subtraction of frames before and after the meteor could be used.  (Linearity of the light response is obviously important - no gamma correction to be used)

Extinction effects over such a wide field can be significant and will vary along the trail. These could be corrected for using an atmospheric model and some sort of mean elevation figure for the meteor though.

Robin

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Michael,

Michael,

An update... After posting I decided to check the tutorial on the Visual Spec site. There is some sort of hack or virus or something going on. My laptop security went mental. Approach with caution...!

Bill.

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Visual Spec tutorials

Hi Bill

Just checked the Visual Spec website and all looks fine this end. Was it a particular link on the tutorial page?  (Some of them use flash which perhaps could have been flagged up as a security problem. ) If there is a problem then we need to let Valerie know.

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Robin

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Hi,

Hi,

I couldn't find her address as I was going to do just that. Could be the Flash issue, I tried other pages and they were fine too. If you have her address it might be worth dropping her a line just in case. Feel free to reference my experience. It's THE most important piece of software I use!!!

cheers,

Bill.

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Valerie Desnoux email

Hi Bill,

There is a link with her email at the bottom of the download page

http://astrosurf.com/vdesnoux/download.html

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Robin

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instrument correction

Thanks Bill.

I've used Vega for calibration in RSpec previously when I used a Star Analyser in my telescope so I'll stick with that method.

Thanks,

Michael.