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Most enjoyable to read and see the various inputs.. As a Night-Owl checking this BAA [24/7] Facility.. when not certain of a happening observed visually or by camera in the skies.. I realise it is probably the Main reason for my yearly renewal..
On one Log-in.. I was delighted to see that Peter had displayed his excellent photos.. However with only a 4Meg camera running at around 6 Frames/sec.. at that stage.. I as always.. awaited Nick’s Identification details and inputs from other members..
Progressively as the inputs built up.. I realised that my camera.. screwed to my neighbours Fence-Post.. both pointing near-enough vertically upwards.. perhaps had background features to the definitive details assembled of the second stage of outgassing.
And I then wondered at what time did the First Stage of the Outgassing event take place.. particularly so as some sort of ‘disturbance’ was already in evidence at around 00:13:00..down in I guess the SSEi am delighted to see both James And Gary discuss this phenomena..
It is possible that I still have further photographic input
if such will further the discussion..
Strange indeed that I too live in Bucks and the photo attached
was taken at 1043 from M40 Jn3 Locality..Casual Photography of ‘Sun-ups’ has been an interest of mine for decades.
Down in the Loudwater Valley the terms Sunrise/Sunset are hardly appropriate..Again strange.. that in my case too..
A Lady member of the Maidenhead Astronomical Society brought our
attention to this rare event with a Phone photo.However.. the photo attached was taken by my camera pointing to the Zenith..
at around 1044am in the locality of ‘M40 Jn3’ on 7th May 2025..
The 2.8 lens has the expected deformations.. but the Oval Rainbow Curvature in this case
seems real enough to my casual eye.. especially with later ‘Space Weather’ confirming same.Looking forward to your comments..
In passing.. A retro glance as I type this.. now showsme that..
an Oval Rainbow Halo was already established at around 0430.UT before Local Sunup at around 0455.UT.Attachments:
My Camera [6 year old ex Security] located in Loudwater Valley adjacent to M40Jn3.. videoed the progress of the rocket for a minute or so across the valley.. Misty clouds all over.. but hopefully Polaris is to be seen to the right of the date/time..
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Hi Robin.. Way down south of you M40 Jn3.. Your quaint Image and description excited my Interest.. Luckily I think that I eventually discovered a ‘typo’ in the wordage of your Image.. relative to the Date and wordage of your Input.. Then with my Arthy fingers becoming tired.. i was delighted to see.. at my less than regularly accurate time setting.. a Beautiful Bright Fireball with a Staggered Start.. Serendipity Indeed.. I will certainly do the necessary to extract a copy.. and Post here.. I do so miss that wonderful Archive of UKMON.. which regularly had me finding Bright Meteors inthe area of Sky above my valley..which I now cover with Old Unwanted Security cameras..[Shades of Mike Maunder].. Just refound an Image of my first Winchester Meeting and a pre Fame Heather..
I had assumed Gary that a Search.. somewhere.. would refresh my memory of the Date of that so very Interesting Lecture.. I do recall that later on..in the absence of any organised travel for him.. I volunteered to take him.. in My ageing Austin Maxi to.. And here {as the Horizon witnesses say} I just cannot remember where I took him to..! I had previously served in the RAEC in Winchester.. so knew the roads well. I was quite surprised at the multiple questions that Wil asked me about the Hydro-Elastic suspension of the Car..as he was visibly impressed by the comfort of the ride.. He was happy when he left the car.. where ever that was..?! I had quite forgotten that particular Winchester attendance.. A lovely lad indeed..
Indeed, Duncan, it was a remarkable display, only surpassed by the one I witnessed over 30 years ago in my Loudwater Valley (M40 Jn3). My collection of refurbished old security cameras, some with just 2-megapixel resolution, allowed me to observe the event from various angles, from approximately 21:00 to 03:30 UT the following morning. While these cameras may not compare to even the most basic phone cameras today, the images they captured, though crudely assembled, reveal a fascinating progression of rays in terms of color, intensity, direction, and speed. The output process is slow, transferring via USB stick from recorders placed near the floor, and made even slower by my age-related infirmities. Yet, this slow pace affords me a precise approach to the observational content of the sequences I produce. Just minutes ago, after some diligent work, I sought some relaxation by visiting the IMO website—a welcome respite after losing access to the daily data from UKMON, which I often used and valued. I had captured the fireball event, designated as IMO 2340-2024, traversing through Cygnus, near Deneb, surrounded by, and mostly beneath, the blue/purple ionized rays. Currently, the IMO has no photographs or videos submitted for this event. To support visual observers, who are invaluable during special event surveys, my first priority is to edit a video of the fireball at 4 frames per second for submission to the IMO via the SPA. In the meantime, I am hopeful that a member of the BAA will assist me in creating a JPG still shot that captures the fireball’s dashed trajectory through the colorful skies. I’ve previously undertaken a meticulous course of manually ‘joining the dots’.. I Aam hopeful of the sort of guidance I would have received from ‘Dave Gavine and the Spectrum’ in earlier times.
There we are ..Failure..
How do I get a lovely BLUE filled in quote?
AND
Is not a Forum such a means for additional inputs??
especially as that very Concept in the past was so helpful..
e.g
i had no idea they had Invented ‘Hidden Lower Case Links’
there were none such back in the day.
but thankfully behind the scenes a helpful well informed member
could be relied upon the quick easy way.Realised I had forgotten to agree with this..
Just surmised..Copy as Highlight and then pasted..
Fingers Crossed..On the Good side.. we must all be grateful that the term ‘Cookies’ is not mentioned.
and the Impact of the Site upon Readers is as good as any Site I see..
As a Scousa and an old Bulletin Boards person [300/75Hertz.. No Kbs or Mbs !]
it terrifies me.. as it seem to demand an Academic Input..
which I left behind in the previous Century.. never having needed it in my Career.Upon reading this discussion earlier..
I decided that I would post an Input on ‘NLCs’.
This I did.
I noted the 4M limit but noticed there was..
No longer ‘Helpful Guidance’ as to Limit for fitting the picture to the Input..
which would have been appropriate for descriptive details.
Possibly that is now not a facility?..
I had no idea where I had seen the Helpful Phrases in the past..
so just posted as was.. so a Tiny copy was shown..I then attempted to post feedback to this discussion..
My first input Bounced with something ‘akin to’ OR ‘to the effect’..
‘No Content Identity’..
After dabbling.. and not being able to find my Input again
Seems that as an ‘Older Reader’..
I had ‘ Not seen’ the Dropdown Box..
as I guess it had not struck me that my input was anything other than
part of this discussion.
The default entry is a Blank..
which I then changed to ‘General Discussion’ or some such.Despite the little Niggles above.. we still should be proud that
we have a First Class Site..
Oh.. and the first class ‘Edge Password Memory’ enables me to access
the Site with merely CLICK/CLICK.stan armstrong
Dominic adequately deals with the Partial Content Download Aspect..
William’s description of his Download Times is entirely expectable..
although it contrasts dramatically with mine.
On successive days since reading his posting.. I have downloaded
at various times the full video file [0.9G] in less than 30 SECONDS.
This Transit Speed is virtually the same as that for other Streaming Services.
My Fibre Link is Cheapo Lowest grade and the Desktop PC is an 11 year old
converted from Windows XP to Win 10. I only use my mobile phone for
Phone Calls so cannot comment on mobile usage.
Sad I know.. but I could not resist the curiosity urge to RETAB and test again.
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Full Video downloaded as MP4 in 29 Seconds at 16:16 PC Time.
Tested video on Audio aspects [love the bit about ‘Negative Pixels’!] on jump..
then took screen shot 8m from end.. Attached
Posted 16:51 PC TimeAttachments:
This input is from my other Desktop which is a more modern Dell.
After switching on and catching up with the News ..I then cautiously
tried several Web-Sites that have been ‘Touchy’ about Security of late..
such as Heavens Above and BT’s own Site..
I use the Password Save Systen in Edge on this PC too and as Microsoft Synchs their Systems..
it was hardly a surprise when This Site came up as smoothly as all the others.
In the meantime..the BAA Timing System is now at one[sic] with Microsoft.. and
so a cheeky good morning from me at 0154 BAA/GMT..
stanAs microsoft is a world wide organisation and the only Time Indicated
on the Browser is Their Time.. possibly change our recorded times of receipt etc to
00:27 which is when i am posting?
stanThe ‘TEAM’ were not to know that Microsoft would coincidentally UPGRADE??
their ‘Edge’ Browser.. With ARI’s [Age related Infirmities] I have been using
A Desktop PC for over 10Years.
Equally BT have changed their Security system to Norton from MCaFee!
One of the features of Edge is a Password Save system.. which I have long used.
This became Somewhat Confused BUT eventually ?Guessed? the user name for ‘Iamsheep’.
Still not sure what then happened.. but all now seems Delightful to look at
and Sleek and Speedy to manipulate.
The Dark Mode at 0019GMT IS FIRST CLASS
stanAge related Infirmities now limit my use of Meade 200 LX3.
Multi-speed Drive-motor and Hand Controller..
Bought New with Astro-Tripod and Shipping Case.
Your thoughts on likely selling price would be appreciated. Thanks
stan armstrong
As it happens Dominic.. none of my cameras are Integrated into any of the Systems either.
But I have expressed an interest in a Pi..
Have scaled down the Image to Fit and I have 4frames of video for you too..
if you wish.. as i find they are always enjoyed by younger listeners.. if this Beauty
is to feature in your Talks as the ” One that got away”?
Sorry about the date..it results from overloaded systems.. but it slices off easily..
As for the Brightness of the Fireballl? The Average Value estimated by all 14 observers
listed by the IMO is -11.5..whereas those self assessed as ‘more aware’ is around -14.
I always read the sometimes very personal comments before I even do a Slow Manual Search
of my 24/7 Video of several cameras.. Hence I then look out for any features described..
Of late there have been descriptions of the ‘Long’ delay in the brightness fading
after the Flash.. Obviously an easy feature for me to corroborate as i only run at around 3 to 4 FPS.
Indeed.. Your ‘OTGA’ seemed to be ‘Well Lit’ for some 4seconds plus.
This indeterminate time period in an ‘Integration’ or Peak Value.. which obviously affected the individual awareness..
makes me now suspect All Meteor Estimates with a decimal place.
Thanks forthat William..
As at now 1945BST .. Clear Skies from SE Start to Polaris ..
stan Jn3M40
Summer triangle has been visible for some 30mins..
That ‘Condition’ has a Remedy Grant.. It is called ‘The Astronomers Prayer’. To be uttered upon pulling back the Curtains..I remember well the Day I learnt of this and was sworn to Secrecy.. It was also the day I was later diagnosed with ‘Bells Palsy’.. and Princess Di’s brother got married..
SNAP Peter.. I too moved in 1974 into same house i still live in.. Census returns suggest occupancy average of less than 8years ! Mind you it was a Doldrum time for House Sales and We visited 26 houses before deciding.. A near 180 Skyline of trees settled it for me and Next to village School suited my wife.
Could certainly give a Map Reference of the house garden to any one wanting to research. However..
Front gardens all pebble covered for cars now ..Ownership would be a legal minefield I guess with
complications of Mortgages.. and overtones of Winchcombe.. Certainly if any Researcher wanted further details I would be happy to assist.
