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Alex PrattParticipant
Hi Bill,
I look forward to seeing your processed spectrum.
David Anderson and I recorded 5 other multi-station Ursids across Scotland last night, so they might be matches for your other spectra. The predictions of enhanced Ursid rates came true in the early hours.
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantGreat to see Matt Taylor in there… 🙂
Alex PrattParticipantHi Bill,
I caught that meteor on my Leeds_N camera and it confirms it was a Geminid (apparent mag. 0.5 from here).
The fainter trail above it was a mag. 2 December alpha Draconid which appeared 2.5 s later.
The weather has cooperated better than expected and my cameras have recorded hundreds of Geminids – keeping me busy.
Clear skies,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Dominic,
Many thanks for your work on this significant project and for looking at all the issues raised.
I’m happy to just move forward with new Album entries having correct timestamps and not worry about past entries. They’re for presentation purposes only and the work submitted to Sections will be logged with the correct dates and times.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Dominic,
I’ve just added a couple of images taken in September. I always enter my times as UTC, e.g. 2020 Sep 13 23:13:22 but it is listed as Observed 2020 Sep 14 00:13 UTC. That pesky BST !
The ‘Technical details and background story’ window doesn’t have a spell checker. Could this be enabled?
Thanks,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantI’ll do some further tests of mags from my Watec 910 with IR/UV blocker. They look to be a reasonable match but I haven’t done a thorough check.
EDR3 is welcomed by many, but the occultation community is awaiting the improved asteroid orbits in the release of Gaia DR3.
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantThanks Tim, that’s its fancy name now is it? It’s what we’ve been doing for decades. 🙂
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Alan,
You don’t need accurate time for your photometry, so I hope you can fettle together some circuitry to embed user text into the video stream.
A look at mine and Tim Haymes’ Members’ Pages shows some of the results from video astronomy. Tim wrote a tutorial on Observing asteroidal occultations with digital cameras, which includes many useful links. My notes on video recording lunar occultations should be on the BAA webpages somewhere; here’s an external link to Guide to video astrometry (it’s in need of revision, but most of it is still valid).
Tutorials and webinars are most useful, but when you’ve got a permanent backlog of observations to analyse and report, it’s finding the time…!
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Alan,
Here is a video frame of its neighbour, NGC 869, taken with the same gear, same exposure
I participate in pro-am projects to record occultation events and for astrometry of NEOs. I need accurate timings, so my timestamps are provided by a 1PPS GPS video time inserter. My current model is the IOTA-VTI Basic. Another popular VTI is GPSBOXSPRITE3. They don’t offer the user an option to add text to the video stream. Some enthusiast have built their own VTIs and added this feature.
You don’t need such timing accuracies for photometry, and with your background you could consider options such as this Arduino Project where you could look at adding text to its timestamps. A Raspberry Pi time server is another option.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantDominic – for video meteors I use UFO Capture and Global Meteor Network‘s RMS (Raspberry Pi Meteor Station) software. Both systems employ a video stars-magnitude formula in their camera profile. UFO doesn’t apply any darks or flats, but RMS applies a flat and corrects for vignetting.
Alan – I use OccuRec for video recording asteroidal occultations, video astrometry and (very occasionally) video photometry of variable stars. They are analysed using Tangra. Its video photometry tab (and the link to Hristo’s article) will be of interest to you. As Robin mentioned, photometry is improved by taking more data; CDD photometrists work with S/N ratios of 100 or more, whereas I need accurate timings of transient events, so I’m usually working with single figure S/N ratios. This example compares video astrometry and photometry with traditional CCD results.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantAlan,
Here’s an example of a single frame of NGC 884 (Sword Handle, Perseus) from a video taken on 2020 Sep 13 with a Watec 910HX camera on a C11 /f10 with f/3.3 focal reducer. 0.64s integration setting
The field is about 30′ across the diagonal and it shows stars to mag. 15.
It’s fun to observe the brighter star clusters in almost real-time, rather than second hand after spending hours taking hundreds of ‘subs’.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Alan,
Analogue video cameras, such as the Watec 902H2 Ultimate and the more sensitive Watec 910, give 8-bit output, a brightness range of 256 values. They can measure accuracies to 0.1 mag., such as this light curve of a minimum of the eclipsing binary, RZ Cas
obtained using a Watec 910 camera and an old 50mm f/2 SLR lens. Thin cloud caused the large amount of scatter at minimum. Of course, using a telescope would reach fainter targets.
Video dark frame and flat field recordings can be made and used to calibrate the data.
Members of the Variable Star Section use CCD and CMOS cameras for photometry and produce estimates accurate to 0.01 mag. This is because they are using 12-, 14- or 16-bit sensors, with much larger well depths, supporting a significantly greater range in brightness, giving better accuracy. Exoplanet observers take photometry to an even higher level.
It depends what you want to do. Video photometry is useful for transient events with large magnitude drops and for estimating times of minima of eclipsing binaries, but I suggest looking at the VSS webpages and its Members’ Pages if you wish to do good quality UBVRI photometry.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantTim,
Please let us know how you get on. As you well know, we need good pointing accuracy to locate our asteroidal occultation fields. If it does the job it’s a lot quicker than star-drift and much less expensive than buying a bespoke polar gizmo.
I’ll leave you to discuss how many angels can sit in the gap between the reported and the true pole.
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantNick,
SharpCap’s pola alignment display was giving error values between 8″ and 15″ as I finished tightening my azimuth and elevation locks. This included a correction for the refracted pole at my latitude. The ambient temperature was around 10 C. Of course, tapping and nudging the mount / ‘scope showed how these values could change.
I fully expect it would give different values if I was to test it on a frequent basis. I don’t do long-exposure astrophotography and I’m not chasing professional observatory alignment standards, just content that it’s reasonably well polar aligned and is doing the job of finding my 30′ star fields.
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantThanks Paul,
‘Radio astronomy’ was a tongue in cheek comment in case anyone despairs of such laser displays becoming more frequent and disrupting our observing programmes.
Cheers,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantThanks Robin.
Coming to a city near you… argh!!!
Clear skies – or – how do I take up radio astronomy…?
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantBeam me up, Scotty!
It’s only a temporary art display, but at least Members are aware of it in case it tours the country to ‘delight’ you all. 🙂
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantHi Stan,
This object was captured on a few cameras in the NEMETODE video meteor network (UKMON is an independent network based in southern England) and here’s the provisional results from our data recorded by Steve Bosley (Clanfield), Peter Carson (Leigh_on_Sea), Nick James (Chelmsford), myself in Leeds and Jim Rowe (East Barnet). This is its ground track as it travelled from NE to SW (observers in continental Europe recorded the earlier phase of its flyby), e.g. see https://groups.io/g/globalmeteornetwork/message/1366
The mini-plots show it increasing in altitude and slightly decelerating as it crossed over England. (Its absolute mag. of around -2.7 is the magnitude of a meteor at a standardised altitude of 100 km in the observer’s zenith).
Our radiant plot, given below, suggests it might have been a Daytime gamma Virginid (GVI), although that shower is not in the Established List in the IAU MDC.
We obtained a well-defined solar system orbit for the body. The elements have some similarities with a GVI but not fully, perhaps it was a sporadic object. The orbit diagram is here
Analysis of the end phase suggests the object had climbed to 110 km altitude and was slightly accelerating as it faded beyond detection of our video cameras (when it was moving towards the Severn Estuary). At this altitude the meteor would be leaving the ablation layer. So, we surmise that it had a close encounter with Earth and has lived to tell the tale!
Such events aren’t uncommon and at the 2018 Winchester Weekend I described the Earth grazer of 2016 July 16 which took 10s to travel 470 km from the North East to the South coast.
Clear skies,
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantAs the first interview got underway I wondered if the team had made their discovery using a Sky-Watcher Infinity 76 ‘scope…? 🙂
Alex.
Alex PrattParticipantThanks Bill.
Looking at the weather forecast it might be more profitable to listen to your radio system or tune in to the Radio Detection Livestream.
Cheers,
Alex.
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