Robin Leadbeater

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  • in reply to: New Starlight Xpress spectrometer #582903
    Robin Leadbeater
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    The lack of understand of what this instrument does compared with the slitless (Star Analyser?)  spectrum of M42 shown there was amusing considering the ~30x difference in cost.

    That spectrograph (in non automated form) has been around a few years (Maurice Gavin did a youtube review on it).  I’ve yet to see a published spectrum using one though. There have been quite a few failures by companies bringing instruments into this field in the past few years. I would say to succeed it needs to get into the hands of a few observers who can show what it can do and get some results out there. That is why the Star Analyser and the instruments from the leading supplier in this high end field succeeded where others have struggled. Their latest UVEX spectrograph, also using reflective optics is coming out in commercial form later this year but is already well known from the results produced using 3D printed kit built prototypes. Getting potential customers directly involved in product development has proved to be a good  way of ensuring a market for the final products.  

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582898
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Stunning indeed.  The sodium emission is dropping away fast now. I wonder how far out from the sun we will be able to detect it? Here is a quick raw spectrum image (yet to be reduced) of the NaD line region from 2020-07-20. 

    Compared with the same 10 days earlier, the sodium lines are now almost superimposed on the sky lines here as the Doppler shift drops to zero as the comet passes us.

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582873
    Robin Leadbeater
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    (The reply to posts is not working correctly. I replied to #121, not #122 !)

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582874
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Hi Hugh,

    It was done rather crudely in this example. The spectra are flux calibrated using a nearby reference as normal. I then just subtracted the Pickles G2v spectrum scaled relative to the comet spectrum in a region where there is just the dust continuum. It is pretty good at removing  the solar absorption lines and most of the dust continuum but leaves a residual shape in the continuum dependent on the broad reflectance spectrum of the dust so not good for quantitative measurements. It would be better to modify the G2v spectrum first to better fit the dust continuum leaving just the emission.

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582870
    Robin Leadbeater
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    A spectrum of the emission lines from the comet tail.

    It is very different to those of the coma usually seen in amateur spectra and is dominated by CO+ emission lines  (the absolute intensity in the spectrum is only ~1% of that in the coma spectrum)

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: At 2020nlb – a possible Supernova in M85 #582867
    Robin Leadbeater
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    It looks like it has finally reached maximum (Vmag 12.2)  3 weeks after the very early discovery. Curiously, the classification spectrum submitted to TNS has still not been made public though.

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582866
    Robin Leadbeater
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    That’s great. There is definitely no Na extending out that far sideways in my image so combining the two images we see just Na near the centre of the coma and streaming out in the tail direction.

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582861
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Hi Hugh,

    Interesting. This cross section through the coma appears to show a different story to this vertical section.

    https://britastro.org/comment/8942#comment-8942

    Perhaps there could be some directional effects in the differences between Dust,Na D and other emission bands with the gas emission moving off the slit to the left relative to the dust.  I have some cross sections across the tail still to analyse  which might shed more light.

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582860
    Robin Leadbeater
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    A (sky subtracted but uncorrected for instrument response) spectrum image showing a cross section through the coma, taken 20200713.985 with the ALPY600  (An extreme non linear gamma contrast stretch had been applied to reveal the outer regions while not saturating the inner coma) Full size image attached

    Although very intense, the sodium emission is confined to a narrow region of the central coma, particularly compared with the CN band which is visible well beyond the dusty region.

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582839
    Robin Leadbeater
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    I’ve finally got round to analysing the high resolution spectrum from 10th July. The velocities relative to sun and earth are satisfyingly close to those published by JPL Horizons 

    https://britastro.org/node/23284

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582837
    Robin Leadbeater
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    I have indeed. (Taken with the ALPY)

    I just need to get round to reducing them (I am currently just finishing off the Doppler  shift calculations on the high resolution spectrum)

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582835
    Robin Leadbeater
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    I have checked with the SPI team who have confirmed that their published image was mirrored so their observation now agrees with Torsten’s  ie the sodium tail is anticlockwise relative to the dust tail

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582816
    Robin Leadbeater
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    There’s now a NEOWISE image showing  the sodium tail embedded within the dust tail.

    https://psi.edu/news/neowisesodiumtail

    This image  is close in though so perhaps the sodium tail emerges from the dust tail further out to produce the narrow reddish tail. Not sure why it is at a larger angle than the ion tail rather than between them like Hale Bopp but perhaps that is a geometry effect ?

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582807
    Robin Leadbeater
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    There has been some discussions about this reddish tail on Cloudy Nights.

    https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/716780-comet-neowise-high-resolution-spectrum/?p=10332533

    I wondered about sodium but the neutral sodium tail seen with Hale Bopp fell between the dust and ion tails rather than at a larger angle as here. I am wondering if it could be from NH2, the emission bands of which fall in the red region of the spectrum. Perhaps some mechanism separating ions by molecular weight, CN, C2 being heavier ?

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582776
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Hi Mike,

    Yep definitely a little orange image of the comet complete with tail in the spectrum there. 

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582772
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Hi Nick,

    The sodium emission is so intense in the spectrum that I wonder if there is any sign of a sodium tail like in Hale Bopp?  I hope to take a spectrum of a cross section through the tails if the weather cooperates but a narrow band image though an Na D pass filter could be interesting. Not a common filter among amateurs though I guess. The inverse filter response is more common !

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582765
    Robin Leadbeater
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    This is what the spectrum  in the region near the Na D lines looked like tonight at ~1A resolution. (The inset is the guider image showing the position of the slit). Note the Doppler blue-shift in the comet Na D lines relative to the  sky lines

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582752
    Robin Leadbeater
    Participant

    Not visible for a few days yet from the observatory so I rigged up a portable setup last night using a Star Analyser in front of a 50mm lens on an AS120mm camera, normally used as a guide camera on the ALPY spectrograph.

    There is not much contrast between the spectrum and the bright sky but the sodium emission is clear.

    Cheers

    Robin

    in reply to: C/2020 F3 (NEOWISE) #582725
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Wow. the animated sequence linked from there showing it rising out of the clouds is pretty stunning

    in reply to: Another bright possible supernova (NGC4457) #582718
    Robin Leadbeater
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    Now also confirmed as a Ia and so could reach mag 12 or perhaps even a bit brighter at this distance depending on extinction

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