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Robin Leadbeater
Participant“Is CN also broken down by sunlight, though at perhaps a slower rate than C2 ?”
Actually, answering my own question it looks like that cannot be the explanation as CN is seen widely distributed in the cross section through the tail of 2020 F3. Any ideas of what is going on?
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantSo.. I went looking for what Lee Feinberg actually said in the teleconference. He did indeed say it could be seen with binoculars in Ursa Major, but…… he was talking about the target they were going to use to collimate the mirror (HD84406)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmD8pefGG2k&t=949s 39 minutes in
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantTo be fair, NASA do have access to some pretty large binoculars !
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantPhew! Now lets hope all the 126 actuators which align the mirror segments work ok. The number of moving parts in the instruments is mind boggling too. NIRSpec apparently has a matrix of a quarter of a million focal plane “microshutters”
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantPerhaps past citations where available could also be added as links from the list of recipients? As well as of individual interest it would reflect the overall achievements of the Association and its members as a whole.
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantI don’t think they are published consistently. I remember looking for my 2019 Merlin Medal in the Journal and could not find one. I recall it was not mentioned at the meeting when I received it either so AFAIK there is no public record of why I received it.!
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantI took another quick look, dodging the showers under poor conditions, this time with the very low resolution faint object setup.
The emission lines are very narrow (which confirms it is not a classical nova) so do not show well at the lower resolution but the blue continuum is unchanged.
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantThe angular size of the lensed star could be inferred from the Gaia parallax, the apparent magnitude and the spectral classification.
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantI can’t offhand think of any way this could be determined spectroscopically. Do you have a suggestion? I am guessing that might be one of the parameters in the light curve fit but I don’t know the details.
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantHere is a similar event back in 2006 which went from mag 11.5 to mag 7.5. There were several papers on this eg this one with members of the amateur community (BAA/CBA etc) as co-authors
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008ApJ…677.1268G/abstract
which deduced the lensing object was likely a low mass star or brown dwarf. Their paper also suggested that it could be a a productive technique for discovering exoplanets.
(I believe my first (crude slitless) spectrum was the earliest of this object which alerted the community that this was something unusual though as far as I know that was not mentioned in any of the subsequent papers). I remember there was considerable scepticism at the time as lensing of such a bright target was considered unlikely but there have been a few more bright ones since then.
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantYes the spectrum will be a blend but the lensing object must be very much fainter (or spectroscopically similar) as there is no evidence of any change in the spectrum even though the total brightness (driven by a change in the brightness of the lensed component) changed by a factor of ~25 (3.5 mag) I am not an expert on lensing but I think once we have a complete model we may have a distance and mass for the lensing component. That would also give an idea of how far back in time they would have been resolvable. Perhaps historical deep images would show something? (Of course not if it is a black hole though)
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantHere is the spectrum (~12A resolution) last night
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
Participantlook out for a ASI120M, they came with a wide angle lens eg currently
https://www.astrobuysell.com/uk/propview.php?view=180950
but better in mono (and the price of this one is too high, they were only about that new)
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantAs well as my classifying spectrum mentioned in VSSC 190, I now have four spectra following this event as it faded down to ~16.3 g. (No change within the uncertainties as expected)
The spectra are in the BAA spectroscopic database but I will also put something on my BAA observations page sometime in the next few days with a few notes about them.
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantAccording to this tweet from the ASSAS-SN team it may have topped out early at just mag 12.9
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Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantEyeballing it from the image it looks slightly brighter than the star above it on the top edge of the frame which is V mag 13.7 (APASS)
Putting the 2SPOT spectrum through the SNID supernova identification program estimates that it was ~11 days from maximum then so possibly maximum around 25th? Plenty of time to go yet.
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantHi Roger,
Spectra can only rule out or support the microlensing hypothesis, not confirm it. (Any changes in the spectrum would have indicated a potential alternative cause of the brightness change) but yes I am happy for my spectra to be included in a paper/article for the JBAA and I can supply a paragraph of explanation. (I will leave it to others to judge its merit as I have little knowledge of the subject)
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantHi Roger,
I saw a comment suggesting a Be star on the TNS discovery entry where it is AT2021ziw. I uploaded my spectrum there to eliminate that suggestion
https://www.wis-tns.org/object/2021ziw
but at the time the gaia team uploaded their discovery there it had only brightened by around 0.4 mag so I would have said the possibilities were pretty wide open at that point. That’s why a spectrum is useful.
Not sure why a brightening Be star would be singled out as a likely possibility, (there must be many mechanisms that can produce such an upward drift in brightness) but my first spectrum clearly eliminated that possibility and that given it looked like a pretty average K class star, probably many other alternatives. The shape and symmetry of the light curve now pretty much seals it as microlensing and my second spectrum supports that. (Only a microlensing event or eclipsing binary would be expected to leave the spectrum unchanged through a significant change in brightness)
I see there is now another spectrum in TNS, taken using the 3.8m Seimei telescope. Although higher resolution the features are the same as in my spectra. (There is a bit of difference in continuum slope, possibly down to my choice of reference star.)
Cheers
Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantIt has now faded ~1.3 mag since the previous spectrum and there has been no significant change, supporting the microlensing hypothesis.
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Robin
Robin Leadbeater
ParticipantNow confirmed spectroscopically as Ia, by ePESTO and by the amateur 2SPOT team using their remote ALPY600 spectrograph in Chile (Image and spectrum on ARAS forum)
The spectrum does not look obviously reddened so it may be heading for being one of the brightest SN for some time
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Robin
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