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4 May 2021 at 10:48 pm in reply to: Introducing MetroPSF – a program for ensemble photometry #584168
Grant Privett
ParticipantI think the version I use is a standard conversion of the DAOFIND routine to Python. I use it to provide the positions of the stars and then do photometry on them.
After that I compare my coordinates with those of stars in Gaia DR2 and generate the matches. So I then have measured flux versus catalogue mag.
I then fit a linear regression and recursively remove the outliers. I’m fairly sure I found that more successful than using weightings. I had expected extreme colour index stars to cause problems too but that had a relatively minor impact.
I think in my process any star with a peak brightness >50,000 was excluded from the linear regression. As you say setting a magnitude limit should work but the count was easy.
Grant Privett
ParticipantHi there,
Not quite sure I understand what your code does.
Differential photometry using Poissonian/Gaussian profile and then using gaia DR2 to get the magnitude of the reference star?
How does the fitted result differ from what you would get using DAOPHOT?
Also, do you set a value that allows stars that are nearing saturation to be ignored?
Is the star to be measured denoted by hand or by RA/Dec somehow?
It does look like code people would find useful.
Grant Privett
ParticipantThats rather nice. Must have a go at that.
Saturday best bet here too. Its traditional though, we’re past full moon, hence its cloudy.
Grant Privett
ParticipantIts being reported that SpaceX have gained approval to drop the altitude of the constellation to reduce the latency of the system. That will make all the satellites brighter.
Some info here:
Grant Privett
ParticipantAs I recall, the Flyeye guys were making some pretty impressive performance claims when this was first announced. It will be interesting to see if they achieve them.
Oddly, I recall the whole system being described as automatic rather than human assisted, but I could easily be wrong. Human intervention would certainly make high sensitivity performance more attainable.
Grant Privett
ParticipantEvening Owen,
Thanks for the headsup. By chance, just a couple of weeks ago I was talking to Martin about his code. I was lending a hand on his attempt to get the Lodestar running happily on Windows. We were having fun trying to get Pyusb and the sxccd code on github working okay. Seemed to work beautifully on Linux but is not always a happy camper on Windows with problems depending on which USB backend was in use on your system. I think he is taking the ASCOM route (though I may be wrong) which I will be curious to see, but would prefer to avoid.
I must admit that after several problems with different approaches, I may just cheat and write a VB6 32bit non-gui executable that I can talk to via environmental variables and set that running to take pictures, telling it to stop / reconfigure as needed. I can then shell/spawn/subprocess that from nearly any language I choose and will be okay until Microsoft decide its end of life for 32 bit processes in W10 (hopefully at least 10 years hence). Would still rather do it properly, but am having a terrible time getting there….and, frankly, theres things a lot more fun to do.
Clear sky outside … and 99% full Moon. It was ever thus.
Grant Privett
ParticipantWould be nice to see an Agenda and list of speakers…
Grant Privett
ParticipantAs late as that! I really had not realised.
Grant Privett
ParticipantGot to say that looks fun, was seriously tempted, but I have too much going on despite (or perhaps because of) being now semiretired.
Would suggest that the project is best suited to someone who programs for fun, is familiar with Python (well beyond the “Hello World” stage), has had previous experience automating equipment control and has very good attention to detail.
When you think you have found all the ways a control program can fail, the real world has half a dozen more saved up for a rainy day.
Grant Privett
ParticipantDo they overheat in the summer or are they automatically throttled or something?
Grant Privett
ParticipantI’m using a Dell E5430 laptop for similar purposes. Its got 4x USB (3x USB2 and 1x USB3), is cheap – hence my enthusiasm – and spare parts are readily available. With 8GB it copes with TheSKyX and Python code coexisting – both are a bit memory hungry. I have an SSD in mine, but I worry a bit about how those feel about low temperatures – there was ice on the lid of the laptop on Saturday night. Also, some E5430 variants have an Express card slot so you can easily add 2 further USBs.
Alternatively, NUCs look nice and Seeed Studio make some fascinating alternatives.
Grant Privett
ParticipantThanks for the thought. Rother Valley were who I bought the upgrade kit from and have always been helpful with me too.
Grant Privett
ParticipantThat looks very hopeful. The EQ6 I have was pretty usable with a quite good PE, but was becoming more prone to nights where there were large spikes superimposed on the PE waveform – dirt in the RA worm I assume.
Interesting what you say about CMOS. Is it that you need to take fresh darks every night and can’t rely on using a bias frame and long exposure dark to generate darks for arbitrary exposure lengths? CMOS certainly are having an impact these days and with CCD foundries closing round the world, we may not have any choice soon.
I must admit that, CMOS sensors like the QHY600 have nice looking specs – interesting to see how the spec and actuality compare.
Grant Privett
ParticipantLosing one of the externally threaded nuts/slotted insert that holds the RA worm and bearing in place has a similar impact. 🙂
3 hours into the search for it, floor, table, hall, rest of kitchen and will be searching conservatory tomorrow (in case it got stuck to soles of shoes). Even checked the rubbish bin in case it got caught up with a greasy tissue. I’m really not enjoying this activity very much so far… 🙂
Grant Privett
ParticipantThe nut came off! ……. Eventually.
It required the metal band oil filter wrench. Because its only meant for 60mm diameter or greater nuts I had to introduce a 4mm deep strip of rubber and it took me leaning very heavily on it to make it move – even then it was reluctant. Doesn’t, look especially corroded or glued. A poor thread originally perhaps. The surface of the nut is slightly damaged, but I use my scopes rather than worship them, so I’m really not fussed.
Anyway, I strongly recommend an oil filter wrench to anyone trying this sort of thing – and also the bearing removal tool thingy (technical engineering term) that Rowan sell.
Mine is an old EQ6, which probably also explains the bad thread on the gear wheel attached to the RA worm – . Even after 24hrs doused in WD40 it was still hard enough on that I thought the Allen key would snap…
That said, I’m happy to say I have not seen any of the swarf recorded on some accounts of servicing an EQ6.
So, the mount now is at max entropy. Now to try and put it back together with the Rowan upgrade.
There may be a whining and the gnashing of teeth heard throughout the land.
Grant Privett
ParticipantI’m no engineer, me.
The flame thrower option is now my third resort – and I can console my self with pudding if it fails. Whats not to like?
Grant Privett
ParticipantApologies. I never think of youtube. I associate it with music mainly. Thanks for the steer.
Yes, the video did make it look easy. Sufficiently so that I now have a second oil filter tool on order – for the price of a pint of beer in London, why not!
Will let you know what transpires.
Grant Privett
ParticipantI’m trying counter clockwise. Open to offers though!
Grant Privett
ParticipantIt had the essential ingredient of being just the right thickness!
Have noticed though that the hot water bottle doesn’t really warm it. Perhaps a blow torch would do better!
Grant Privett
ParticipantWas taking them a few minutes ago. 🙂
Astrobaby suggests a bolt/strap based oil filter wrench, but most of those don’t go down to 58mm diameter. Might try one of the 60mm ones with a few layers of rubber after I try the strap based one arriving tomorrow.
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